London Review
of Books | Vol. 26 No. 8 dated 15 April 2004

My Marvel Years
Jonathan Lethem

In the mid-1970s I had two friends who were into Marvel comics. Karl,
whose parents were divorced, and Luke, whose parents were among the most
stable I knew. My parents were something between: separated, or separating,
sometimes living together and sometimes apart, and each of them with lovers.
    Luke had an older brother, Peter, whom both Luke and I
idealised in absentia. Peter had left behind a collection of 1960s Marvel
comics in sacrosanct box files. These included a nearly complete run of
The Fantastic Four, the famous 102 issues drawn by Jack Kirby and scripted
by Stan Lee, a defining artefact (I now know) of the Silver Age of comics.
     Luke was precocious, worldly, full of a satirical
brilliance I didn’t always understand but pretended to, as I pretended
to understand his frequent references to ‘Aunt Petunia’ and ‘The Negative
Zone’ and ‘The Baxter Building’. He was disdainful of childish pursuits
and disdainful of my early curiosity about sex (I didn’t catch the contradiction
in this until later). Luke didn’t buy new comics so much as read and reread
old ones. Luke’s favourite comic-book artist was Jack Kirby.
      Karl was precocious, secretive and rebellious,
full of intimations of fireworks and drugs and petty thievery that frightened
and thrilled me. He was curious about sex, and unaware of or uninterested
in the early history of Marvel superheroes. For him, Marvel began with the
hip, outsiderish loner heroes of the 1970s – Ghost Rider, Luke Cage, Warlock,
Iron Fist. His favourite comic-book artist was John Byrne.

     Karl got in trouble a lot. Luke didn’t.
     Though all three of us lived in rough parts of Brooklyn,
Karl and I went to a terrifying public school in an impoverished neighbourhood,
while Luke went to St Ann’s School, safe in moneyed Brooklyn Heights. Karl
and I were forced to adopt a stance of endurance and shame together, a kabuki
of cringing postures in response to a world of systematic bullying. That
was a situation I could no more have explained to Luke than to my parents.
Karl and I never discussed it either, but we knew it was shared.
    In 1976 Marvel announced, with what seemed to Karl and
me great fanfare, the return of Jack Kirby, the king of comics, as an artist-writer
– a full ‘auteur’ – on a series of Marvel titles. The announcement wasn’t
a question of press conferences or advertisements in other media, only sensational
reports on the ‘Bullpen Bulletins’ pages of Marvel comics themselves, the
CNN of our little befogged minds at the time. Kirby was the famed creator
or co-creator of a vast collection of classic Marvel characters: the Fantastic
Four, the Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Doctor Doom, the Inhumans. In a shadowy
earlier career he had also created Captain America. His career reached into
prehistory: the notion that he was about to reclaim his territory was rich
and disturbing. In fact, what he would turn out to bring to Marvel was
a paradoxical combination: clunkily old-fashioned virtues that had been outmoded,
if not surpassed, by subsequent Marvel artists, together with a baroque
futuristic sensibility that would leave most readers chilled, largely alienated
from what he was trying to do. Later, I’d learn, Kirby’s return created
rifts in the ranks of the younger Marvel writers and artists, who resented
the creative autonomy he’d been granted and found the results laughable.
At the time, all I knew was that Kirby’s return created a rift between myself
and Karl.
     Kirby hadn’t been inactive in the interlude between
his classic 1960s work for Marvel and his mid-1970s return. He’d been in
exile at DC, Marvel’s older, more august and squarer rival. In his DC work
and the return to Marvel, where he unveiled two new venues, The Eternals
and 2001, Kirby gradually turned into an autistic primitivist genius, disdained
as incompetent by much of his audience, but revered by a cult of aficionados
in the manner of an ‘outsider artist’. As his work spun off into abstraction,
his human bodies becoming more and more machine-like, his machines more
and more molecular and atomic (when they didn’t resemble vast sculptures
of mouse-gnawed cheese), Kirby became great/awful, a kind of disastrous genius
uncontainable in the form he himself had innovated. It’s as though Picasso
had, after 1950, become Adolf Wölfli, or John Ford had ended up as
John Cassavetes. Or if Robert Crumb had turned into his obsessive mad-genius
brother, Charles Crumb.

If this
drawn by
Kirby in
the 1970s

it would
be a massive

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As a child, I suffered a nerdish fever for authenticity and origins
of all kinds, one which led me into some very strange cultural places.
Any time I heard that, say, David Bowie was only really imitating Anthony
Newley, I immediately lost interest in David Bowie and went looking for the
source, sometimes with the pitiable results that this example suggests.
So I was always moving backwards through time, and though I was born in
1964 and came to cultural consciousness some time around 1970, I adored
the culture of the 1950s and early 1960s: Ernie Kovacs, The Twilight Zone,
the British Invasion, Lenny Bruce, the Beat writers, film noir. I tended
to identify with my parents’ taste in things, and with the tastes of my
parents’ friends, more than with the cultural tokens of my own generation.
With Luke, I went to see a Ralph Bakshi film called Heavy Traffic, in which
an unforgettable animated sequence accompanies and illustrates, with crude
(and rude) drawings, the Chuck Berry song ‘Maybelline’. Thanks to that
film I fell in love with Chuck Berry, and while every kid in freshman year
of high school was defining their identity according to whether they liked
a) Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd and The Doors or b) The Clash and The Specials
and Bad Brains or c) Cheap Trick and The Cars and Blondie, I was looking
into z) Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley. It’s a commonplace that we 1970s kids
were doomed to glance backwards, out of our impoverished world of Paul McCartney
and Wings, to the era of the Beatles, but I was the only 12-year-old I’ve
ever known who got into an extended argument with his own mother about whether
the Beatles were better before or after Sergeant Pepper – my mother on the
side of ‘I Am the Walrus’, me on the side of ‘Drive My Car’.
    At the moment in my childhood I’m describing, bodies were
beginning to change, and the exact degree and nature of their changes created
some psychological opportunities and thwarted others. Karl at 13 grew tall,
handsome and dangerously good at looking adult; Luke and I were still small
and childlike. Karl identified, as I’ve said, with Marvel’s existential
loners: the Vision, Warlock, Ghost Rider. By becoming tall and rebellious
– he’d begun to write graffiti, smoke pot, fail in school, pursuits I only
barely flirted with – he’d eluded childishness by a bodily rejection of it
and by rejecting obedience. The cost was exile from continuity with what
was attractive in our parents’ worlds. That cost didn’t bother Karl, not
at that moment anyway.
     So here was how, for a time, I tilted back to Luke:
he and I were partners in a strategy of rejecting childishness by identifying
with our parents and sneering at rebellion. As paltry new teenagers, we
adopted a ‘you can’t fire me, I quit’ position.
     Marvel was complicit in my muddled yearning backwards;
ours, I should say – mine, Luke’s, even Karl’s. By the time of Kirby’s return,
talk of Marvel’s ‘greatness’ was explicitly nostalgic. Any argument, based
on a typically American myth of progress, that our contemporary comics might
be even more wonderful, was everywhere undermined by a pining for the heyday
of the 1960s. This was accomplished most prominently in Stan Lee’s two
books: Origins and Son of Origins, which reproduced and burnished the creation
myths of the great 1960s characters. Nostalgia was further propagated in
Marvel’s reprint titles: Marvel Tales, which offered rewarmed Spider-Man,
and the too-aptly-titled Marvel’s Greatest Comics, which put forward the
Kirby-Lee run of The Fantastic Four. This was a bit like Paul McCartney and
Wings playing Beatles songs on Wings over America. We 1970s kids couldn’t
have been issued a clearer message: we’d missed the party.

    In the Origins books, Lee notoriously undersold the contributions
of his artist collaborators – mostly Kirby, but also Steve Ditko, the penciller
of Spider-Man and Doctor Strange. Later, in a dispute over the ownership
of original drawings, Kirby was given extensive chances to play a grouchy
old David against Marvel’s corporate Goliath, and the comics world rallied
around him. He also made public claim to being the sole author of the great
characters that had made the Kirby-Lee partnership famous: the Fantastic
Four and all their sublime villains and supporting cast, Hulk, Thor, Silver
Surfer (he even once threw in Spider-Man for good measure).
    In Marvel’s greatest comics, Lee and Kirby were full collaborators
who, like Lennon and McCartney, really were more than the sum of their parts,
and who derived their greatness from the push and pull of incompatible visions.
Kirby always wanted to drag the Four into the Negative Zone – deeper into
psychedelic science fiction and existential alienation – while Lee resolutely
pulled them back into the morass of human lives, hormonal alienation, teenage
dating problems, pregnancy, and unfulfilled longings to be human and normal
and loved and not to have the Baxter Building repossessed by the City of
New York. Kirby threw at the Four an endless series of ponderous fallen
gods or whole tribes and races of alienated antiheroes with problems no
mortal could credibly contemplate. Lee made certain the Four were always
answerable to the female priorities of Sue Storm – the Invisible Girl, Reed
Richards’s wife and famously ‘the weakest member of the Fantastic Four’.
She wanted a home for their boy Franklin, she wanted Reed to stay out of the
Negative Zone, and she was willing to quit the Four and quit the marriage
to stand up for what she believed.
     I seriously doubt whether any 1970s Marvel-loving
boy ever had a sexual fantasy about Sue Storm. We had Valkyrie, Red Sonja,
the Cat, Ms Marvel, Jean Grey, Mantis and innumerable others available
for that. We (I mean, I) especially liked the Cat. Sue Storm was truly
invisible. She was a parent, a mom calling you home from where you played
in the street, telling you it was time to brush your teeth. Not that she
wasn’t a hottie, but Kirby exalted her beauty in family-album style headshots,
and glimpses of her, nobly pregnant, in a housedress that covered her clavicle.
The writers and artists who took over The Fantastic Four after Kirby and,
later, Lee departed the series, seemed impatient with the squareness of
Sue and Reed’s domestic situations. Surely, these weren’t the hippest of
the Kirby/Lee creations. Nevertheless, if you (I mean, I) accept my premise
that the mid-to-late 1960s Fantastic Four were the exemplary specimens,
the Revolver and Rubber Soul and White Album of comics, and if you further
grant that pulling against the tide of all of Kirby’s inhuman galactacism,
that whole army of aliens and gods, was one single character, our squeaky
little Sue, then I wonder: Invisible Girl, the most important superhero
of the Silver Age of comics?
     I’m breaking down here. The royal we and the presumptive
you aren’t going to cut it. This is a closed circuit, me and the comics
which I read and which read me. Stan Lee’s rhetoric of community was a weird,
vibrant lie: every single true believer, every single member of the Make
Mine Marvel society or whatever the fuck we were meant to be called, received
the comics as a private communion with our own obscure and shameful yearnings,
and it was miraculous and pornographic to so much as breathe of it to another
boy, let alone be initiated by one more knowing. We and you don’t know a
thing about what I felt back then, any more than I know a thing about what
you felt.

     I’d be kidding if I claimed anyone much cherishes
the comics of Kirby’s ‘return to Marvel’ period. Even for souls who take
these things all too seriously, those comics have no real place in the
history: they define only a clumsy mis-step in a dull era at Marvel, before
the brief renaissance signalled by the ascent of the Chris Claremont X-Men.
Here, joining the chorus of the indifferent, is Kirby himself, from an interview
in Comics Journal which ranged over his whole glorious career:

Interviewer: ‘It always seemed like your last stint at Marvel was a
little half-hearted.’

Kirby: ‘Yeah.’

There’s something else I’ve sensed about the Kirby/Lee partnership:
Kirby must have been a kind of ambivalent father figure to Lee. He was
only five years older, but they were crucial years – crucial in defining
two different types of American manhood. Kirby came of age in the 1930s,
was toughened by his Depression boyhood and perhaps scarred by his frontline
experiences in World War Two. Lee was more like the coddled 1950s striver
who lived in the world his parents had fought for and earned. This difference
perhaps underlies the extremes of The Fantastic Four: Kirby concerned himself
with a clash of dark and light powers, and passionately identified with alien
warrior-freaks who, like John Wayne in The Searchers, were sworn to protect
the vulnerable civilian (or human) societies they were incapable of living
among. His vision was darkly paternal. Lee’s was the voice of the teenage
nonconformist, looking for kicks in a boring suburb, diffident at best about
the family structures by which he was nevertheless completely defined.
     Now, when I consider the steady alienation from
humankind of Kirby’s bands of outsiders, I wonder if he might be one of
those who could never completely come home again. But he did try to come
home in 1976, to Marvel. Karl and I bought the hype, and bought the comics.
And Karl didn’t like them, and I did. Or anyway I defended them, pretended
to like them. Karl immediately took up a view, one I’ve now learned was
typical of a young 1970s Marvel fan: he said Kirby sucked because he didn’t
draw the human body right. Karl was embarrassed by the clunkiness, the raw
and ragged dynamism, the lack of fingernails or other fine detail. Artists
since Kirby had set new standards for anatomical and proportional ‘realism’:
superhero comics weren’t supposed to look cartoonish anymore. I, schooled
both in the love my father, an expressionist painter, had of exaggeration
and fantasy, and in Luke’s scholarly and tendentious devotion to his older
brother’s comics, decided I saw what Karl couldn’t.
    In my defence of Kirby, I was conflating comic art and
comic writing. I need to quit conflating them here. That is to say, it’s
possible to argue about the moment Kirby’s pencilling began to go south.
He was good; he got worse. What’s undebatable is the execrable, insufferable
pomposities of Kirby’s dialogue in the Marvel work without Lee. Or the deprivations
involved in trying to love his galactically distant and rather depressed
storylines. As a writer, he always stank.
    I did try to love the storylines. It mattered to me. With
Luke’s help I’d understood that Kirby represented our parents’ values,
the Chuck Berry values. In Kirby resided the higher morality of the Original
Creator, that which I’d sworn to uphold against the shallow killing-the-father
imperatives of youth. Luke, it should be said, never cared about Kirby’s
return. He was a classicist, and didn’t buy new comics. I was on my own,
hung out to dry by The Eternals.

     Karl and I were drawing comics in those days. Well,
not really comics; we were drawing superheroes – we’d design a character,
detail his costume and powers and affect, then speculate on his adventures.
I was profligate, quickly generating a large stack of characters, whose
names, apart from ‘Poison Ivy’ and ‘The Hurler’, I can no longer recall.
Karl drew fewer characters, more carefully, and imparted to them more substantial
personalities and histories. One day in Karl’s room, he and I were arguing
about Kirby and I formulated a rhetorical question, meant to shock Karl into
recognising Kirby’s awesome gifts. Who else, I asked, had ever shown the
ability to generate so many characters, so many distinctive costumes, so
many different archetypal personas? Karl said: You.
     At the time my ego chose to be buoyed by Karl’s
remark. But really he’d identified an increasing childishness in Kirby.
None of the army of new characters at Marvel was ever going to mean much
to anyone. They were only empty costumes, like my own drawings. There was
something regressive about Kirby now – he’d become self-referential, the
outsider artist decorating the walls of private rooms.
     The comics Karl and I actually relished in 1976
and 1977, if we were honest (and Karl was more honest than me), were The
Defenders, Omega the Unknown and Howard the Duck, all written by a mad genius called Steve Gerber, and Captain Marvel and Warlock, both written and drawn by another auteur
briefly in fashion, Jim Starlin.
As far as the art went, Gerber liked
to collaborate with plodding but inoffensive pencillers such as Jim Mooney
and Sal (‘The Lesser’) Buscema. Those guys moved the story along well enough.
Starlin’s were drawn in a slickly hip and mildly psychedelic style, but with
the ‘realistic’ musculature that the moment (and Karl) demanded, rather than
the Franz Kline kneecaps and biceps of Jack Kirby. Gerber’s tales were wordy,
satirical and self-questioning, and stuffed full of homely human characters
dealing with day-to-day situations: bag ladies, disc jockeys, superheroines’
jealous husbands, kids who faced bullying at their local public schools.
His attitude to the superhero mythos was explicitly deflationary. Starlin
was more into wish-fulfilment fantasies of cosmic power, but he was droll
and readable, and the scrupulous way he drew his psychedelia was actually
(I see now, paging through the stuff) indebted to Steve Ditko’s early version
of Doctor Strange. Enough. The point is, Gerber and Starlin were the two
creators whose (commercially non-viable) work was pitted in the day to day
contest against the return of the king, and they were winning, hands down,
even in my muddled and ideological heart.

Karl and I were in intermediate school in Brooklyn together until the
summer of 1977. Though our friendship was strained towards the end of that
time, both by Karl’s physical maturation and by the increasing distance
between his rebellious nonconformity with the adult world and my parent-identifying
nonconformity with the teenage world, we continued sporadically to buy and
evaluate Marvel comics together until the end of eighth grade.

It was high school which severed our connection, for what would become
years. I went off to Music and Art, in Manhattan, a place much populated
by dreamy nerds like me and perfectly formulated to indulge my yearning
to skip past teenagerhood straight to an adult life; many of my best friends
in high school were my teachers. Karl was destined for Stuyvesant High,
where he drifted into failure and truancy. Later he’d land at one of our
local public high schools, John Jay, where he was forced to continue battling
a world of bullying I’d left behind.

Luke, meanwhile, was still safe in the preserve of private school, where
he might be subject to the push and pull of peer pressure, but was better
isolated from the starkness of the bankrupt city around us. Our friendship,
mine and Luke’s, was restored somewhat during those high school years, though
my public school experiences had made me worldly in ways that Luke’s stubborn
cognition, and the advantage of his older brother’s influence, couldn’t
quite match. As for physical maturation, I now shot ahead, catching up with
Karl (though he wasn’t around for me to make the comparison), while Luke
still lagged slightly. Now, I think, I was to Luke as Karl had been to me.
No rebel, I had nonetheless begun to smoke pot, which Luke still distrusted.
No whizz with girls, I was at least comfortable with my puppyish interest,
while Luke remained, for the time being, gnarled up.

Between me and Luke, Jack Kirby was still a tacit god, but only on the
strength of his canonical 1960s work. Luke and I, righteous in our reverence
for origins, didn’t between us acknowledge Kirby’s continued existence.
It would have been unseemly, like dwelling on the fact that Chuck Berry had
had a 1970s novelty hit called ‘My Ding-a-Ling’. Whether Karl continued to
buy comics I couldn’t know. Our argument about Kirby was lost, along with
much else, in the denial surrounding the state of our friendship, which had
attenuated to an occasional ‘hello’ on the streets of the neighbourhood.

In the last year of high school, before college changed everything,
Luke and I still drifted together occasionally. Now it was he and I who
drew comics – not innocently wishful superheroes, but what we imagined were
stark satires, modelled on Robert Crumb and other heroes of the ‘underground’.
Luke had by then begun dating girls, too, and one of our last collaborative
productions was a Kirby parody called ‘Girlfriends from the Earth’s Core’.
A two-page strip, it reworked the material of a failed double date of a month
before, when Luke and I had taken two girls, soon to be our first bitter
exes, to a fleabag movie theatre at the Fulton Mall. Luke ‘pencilled’ the
pages, and I was the ‘inker’ – I specialised in Kirbyesque polka-dots of
energy, which we showed rising from the volcanic bodies of the two primordial

I know them both, Luke and Karl. Luke’s parents are still married, and
Luke and his wife live in a New England town. The oldest of their children
is called Harpo – more of the reverence for early 20th-century culture that
always drew us together. Luke works (as Kirby once did, when he was demoralised
by the failed return to Marvel) making animated films. His conversation still
features Fantastic Four-derived phrases such as ‘Aunt Petunia’ and ‘Clobberin’
Time’. I see Kirby flashing in his eyes; I know for him it’s more real
than it ever was for me.

Me, I’m a fake, my Kirby-love cobbled from Luke’s certainty, Karl’s
resistance and Stan Lee’s cheerleading. My version of an older brother
was Karl, and Karl wasn’t reverent about Kirby. Kirby was merely on the
menu of the possible, alongside Starlin and Gerber, alongside Ghost Rider
and Warlock, alongside forgetting about comics and getting into girls or
music or drugs instead. Karl never had that kind of crush on his own or
other kids’ parents – a crush on the books on their shelves, on the records
in their collections.

Karl still lives in the Brooklyn neighbourhood to which I’ve returned
and which he never left. He lives down the street, and we’re both only
a few blocks from the once treacherous precinct of our shared school. Last
week I had him over, and we dug out a box of Marvel comics. These were the
same copies we’d cherished together in 1976 and 1977 – for, in an act surely
loaded with unexamined rage, I’d bought Karl’s comic collection from him
in the middle of our high-school years, when his interest drifted, when our
friendship was at its lowest ebb. He wasn’t desperate to contemplate our
old comics, but he was willing. While we were browsing the Kirbys of the
return era, he corrected my memory in a few specifics. He raised the possibility
that the argument about Kirby, which had seemed to me loaded with the direst
intimations of the choices we were about to make, the failures of good faith
with our childhood selves we were about to suffer, had mostly been conducted
in my own head. It happened when I put a stack of Kirby’s 2001’s in his hands.

‘I really got into some of these issues,’ he said. I could see his features
animate with recollection as he browsed Kirby’s panels, something impossible
to fake even if he had a reason to do so. ‘I remember this comic book really
blew my mind.’

‘I though you never liked Kirby,’ I said feebly, still stuck on my thesis.
I explained what I thought I remembered.

‘No, I remember when he first came back I was a little slow to get it,’
Karl replied. ‘But you had me convinced pretty quickly. I remember thinking
these were really trippy. I’d like to read them again, actually.’

‘Oh,’ I said.

‘I just never liked the way he drew knees.’

Jonathan Lethem’s novels include Motherless Brooklyn and The Fortress
of Solitud



Skilling’s night out cost him?

Prosecutors eye changes to release terms, say former Enron CEO lied
to staff about being drunk.
April 22, 2004: 2:32 PM EDT

HOUSTON (Reuters)
– Prosecutors charged Wednesday that former Enron Chief Executive Jeff
Skilling broke the terms of his $5 million bond during a bizarre alcohol-fueled
fracas in New York earlier this month.
   The court filing says Skilling’s blood alcohol level
was 0.19 — more than twice the legal limit for driving in most U.S. states
— when police sent him to the hospital at 4 a.m. on April 9. The case
against Skilling does not involve driving, however.
     Officers described Skilling as “uncooperative
and intoxicated” and deemed him “an emotionally disturbed person” because
he was accusing bar patrons of being undercover agents for the
Federal Bureau of Investigation.

     “At one point, Skilling
went to the middle of the street, put his hands behind his back and began
talking to the sky, asking if FBI cameras were capturing what was happening,”
the motion says

     The motion stops short of asking U.S. District
Court Judge Sim Lake to revoke Skilling’s bond, and instead asks for a
hearing to discuss changes to his terms of release.
       He was freed Feb. 19 after pleading not
guilty to 35 counts of fraud, insider trading and lying about Enron’s finances.

      Skilling’s attorney, Daniel Petrocelli, said
his client regrets the incident.

      “But it certainly did not happen in the way the
government said it did in their motion,” he said, declining to answer specific
questions about the government’s account.
       He said the motion was unnecessary because
the pretrial services officers monitoring Skilling’s release have already
provided information to the court.
       “This only reinforces the view that the
government is more committed to prejudicing Mr. Skilling than ensuring
his right to a fair trial in court,” Petrocelli said.

      The motion says Skilling lied to pretrial services
staff about being drunk.
      According to the motion, Skilling and his wife,
former Enron corporate secretary Rebecca Carter, met and began drinking
with two men at the Four Seasons Hotel bar.
     The party moved to a cigar bar, Bar & Books,
around midnight, and the foursome began drinking with a married couple
and their male friend.

     Skilling picked up a $171 bar tab and kept drinking,
promising his new friends he would “fly them down to Houston and provide
them with their own maid” at his mansion.
      But Skilling soon became belligerent, and accused
his new friends of being undercover FBI agents. When his wife tried to
get him to leave, he responded with obscene language, the motion says.

      The bar’s manager kicked the group out, and
once outside, Skilling began trying to remove the
front license plate from the married couple’s car.

    “The defendant did so apparently to gather ‘proof’ of
the true identity,” of the couple, the motion says.
     Then Skilling tried to lift
the woman’s blouse to see if she was wearing a hidden microphone,
led to a scuffle with the other two men, it says.

      One of them hit Skilling, who then grabbed his
wife and accidentally caused her to fall to the ground. Skilling admitted
this later at the hospital, the motion says.

      At the time of the incident, Skilling’s lawyers
said “two aggressive men” began questioning Skilling about Enron and his
wife was “thrown to the ground.”
      Philip Hilder, a Houston attorney and former
federal prosecutor, said the motion is likely an effort to put more restrictions
on Skilling.
     “Had the violations been egregious enough, there
would have been a motion for revocation,” Hilder said



Westwood reflects in the New York Times:

Now, more than two decades later, she wonders what her punk past was
all about.
   “I don’t agree with anything I said in those days,” she
said. “Nothing. Completely opposite. I don’t believe any of it. I think
it’s madness. Malcolm wrote these texts about Dickensian urchins creating
havoc, you know, very poetic, but nonsense. One of our slogans was, `Under
the paving stones lies the beach.’ And at one point, I thought to myself,
`I’ve no interest in living on the beach.'”
     “At the time I felt very rebellious,” she went
on, “but I now realize there’s no point in it. The urban guerrilla
was essentially what we were after, but I don’t believe there is a crusade
to be waged by wearing clothes. You just become the token rebel who persuades
everyone they are living in a free society. Society
tolerates its rebels because it absorbs them into its consumer society.

You become part of the marketing. Everything comes with a label.”



From Barbelith:

BY: I like that whole idea of ripping open space within the environment
whether it’s solid or virtual and y’know the whole paperverse interface
that you explored, or have explored countless times, but you’ve really
started to look at the technology of it in “The Filth” and I’m fascinated
by it. What’s the idea behind it?

GM: That idea was me making sense of when I’d taken mushrooms and
read “Doom Patrol” — I was aware that I was holding a continuum, that’s
when I started to
develop ideas of comics as magic, comics as sigils, because I got
to page 22 then I turned back to page 8; I thought, “I’m in this story
which I don’t understand, I’ve read this bit, I can go back to the point
where the characters don’t know what’s about to happen to them and I
can experience it out of sequence and I saw that this comic was this entire
little universe/ continuum in
it’s own right and also the wider implications; that the DC Universe
and the Marvel Universe were also continuums in their own way created
by people when I was a kid or before I was born. Maintained by people,
who like these Demonic Corporations, maintained and kept these characters
which were sustained by people who would come in and look after them; people
who would come in and look after Scott Summers – it was that notion of
the universe in your hands and the possibilities in that.

BY: Do you think that informed your experience of Space-Time?

GM: Yeah – because it was a metaphor for that. I mean “Zoids”-

BY: I’ve not read it but I know of it.

GM: It winds up that the prime movers of the story are five-dimensional
being aliens who manipulate them all because the Zoids are toys-

BY: That’s hilarious – in “Zoids”!

GM: I thought, ‘What if I treat them literally as toys?’ When I was a kid I’d try and draw the fourth dimension. To me it’s something that’s always been there – it’s a refinement of ideas.
As you grow older you bring backup and other people’s ideas to scaffold
things you’ve thought yourself and you begin to assemble some kind of structure
from it and make some kind of sense of it.

BY: It’s always very comforting when you find someone in the pubic
realm who’s producing work that matches what you’re thinking and articulates
it when I couldn’t articulate it myself. I think comics lends itself to-

GM: Comics is like poetry. It’s a miracle that it has the circulation
that it does

BY: The chord it strikes in people who are attracted to it is so
strong it can be impossible to explain to someone who doesn’t experience

GM: It’s the virtual world aspect of them. You’re actually inside
it. When you’re really enjoying a comic you’re inside the space like
nothing else. The way you have control over the time it takes to read
it. You’ve got control over this continuum. I just wanted to do that
with “Animal Man.” It was an experiment with those characters – I wasn’t
happy with that continuum. I wanted to do more of that with DC – I might
still do it with the HyperCrisis idea to explore that emotion of the comic
talking to you, developing it’s own language, to control how you read the
comic and how you would have certain kind of experiences while you read
the comic. So those are ideas ready to be played with: the actual thing
in your hand and how the characters react with it. The Challengers
of the Unknown standing on the boundaries of the comic saying ‘There’s
something massive…a massive lifeform out there. The entire continuum
is trembling.’

We’re all drawn on the same paper. Even in a physical way
– our bodies are exchanging atoms with the environment all the time –
there is no solid boundary. In seven years you’ll have a completely different
atomic structure from the one you have now. So we’re constantly exchanging
with the environment. Our molecules are composed
of bits of stars, there really is not much distinction between us and the
environment apart from the ones we make in order to function as individual


15 APRIL 2004



Two-Day Performance Workshop

Ms. Judith Malina with other Living Theatre members
will lead a free two-day workshop for activists, actors
and all persons opposed to state killing, to learn and perform
the anti-death penalty protest play “Not in My Name.”

The next workshop will be held:

May 15 & 16, 2004
11am to 6pm
Actors Movement Studio
302 West 37th Street, 6th Floor

New York City

To recognize the play’s tenth anniversary, the weekend will culminate
with a performance in Times Square on Sunday, May 16th at 6pm.

We encourage persons of all backgrounds and experience levels
to participate.

To find out more and to pre-register, please call 212 969-8905

or send email to workshop@livingtheatre.org


APRIL 2004

The Coconut Revolution

(Film/Video, Stampede, Nov 2001)

This is the modern-day story of a native peoples’ remarkable victory
over Western Colonial power. A Pacific island rose up in arms against
giant mining corporation Rio Tinto Zinc (RTZ) – and won despite a military
occupation and blockade. When RTZ decided to step up production at the Panguna
Mine on the island of Bougainville, they got more than they bargained for.
The island’s people had enough of seeing their environment ruined and being
treated as pawns by RTZ.
    RTZ refused to compensate them, so the people decided
it was time to put an end to outside interference in the island’s affairs.
To do this they forcibly closed down the mine.
     The Papua New Guinea Army (PNGDF) were mobilised
in an attempt to put down the rebellion. The newly formed Bougainville
Revolutionary Army (BRA) began the fight with bows & arrows, and sticks
& stones. Against a heavily armed adversary they still managed to retain
control of most of their island. Realising they were beaten on the ground,
the PNGDF imposed a gunboat blockade around Bougainville, in an attempt
to strangle the BRA into submission. But the blockade seemed to of had
little or no effect.

     With no shipments getting in or out of the
island, how did new electricity networks spring up in BRA held territory?
How were BRA troops able to drive around the island without any source
of petrol or diesel?
     What was happening within the blockade was an
environmental and spiritual revolution. The ruins of the old Panguna
mine where being recycled to supply the raw materials for the world’s first eco-revolution.

    A David and Goliath story of the 21st century, The
Coconut Revolution will appeal to people of all backgrounds

FICA Festival of Environmental Film, Brazil
BEMA Richard Keefe Memorial Award – WWF
Golden Kite, Best Documentary, Mar del Plata, Argentina
Silver Kite, Best Film for Young People, Argentina

Runner up:
BEMA (British Environmental Media Awards) Best Documentary
Amnesty International Awards, Best Documentary
One World Media Awards 2001, TV Documentary

Director: Dom Rotheroe

Sound: Carlos Soto
Funding: Soros Documentary Fund
Producer: Mike Chaimberlain

50 minutes